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Sunday, December 21, 2003

Fred Column 

Rafiel Torre has been tossed in prison for suspected murder. Trolls have long accused him of exagerrating his credentials as a martial artist and journalist. Of course over at the UG he was respected because of his access to real fighters. There's a lot of revisionist history over there with people acting like they knew all along he was a fraud. Here's an interesting post from Chris Brennan -

From: WestsideStrangler
Date: 20-Dec-03 06:51 PM
Member Since: 01-Jan-01
3297 Total Posts


#1 before I rolled with him he took me aside and asked me to not make him tap in front of everyone if I caught him because he is a black belt as well. I said ok and proceeded to molest him on the mat without taping him. He might have been blue or purple, but I would lean more towards blue.
As far as his fight went he asked me to corner for him and I was like "yeah I guess" and had no idea it was a work. Then to top it off as we were walking out the announcer says, and I fucking quote, "AND FIGHTING OUT OF TORRES NEXT GENERATION FIGHTING ACADEMY". I almost had a friggin heart attack.

As far as the murder goes I can't really say because I am almost 100% positive that I will be on the stand.

This has got to be embarrassing for the Brazillian fighters who embrace him and the Arabs that ran Abu Dhabi's website who tried to turn Torre into some type of Frank Deford of MMA.

Some people who knew Torre don't seem to be saying much at all -

By the way, what's up with Rubber's hairdo's or should I say hair don'ts? Are mullets and mohawks what's in fashion in L.A.?





Pedictably some of the losers at the UG continue to defend Torre much like the losers who attend support parties for pedophile Michael Jackson.


From: superbetiss
Date: 20-Dec-03 01:17 PM
Member Since: 15-Jul-03
434 Total Posts


I've known Raph for along time....I dont believe he did that shit!!!.....and he has NOT been proven guilty.


From: 70s Bush
Date: 19-Dec-03 08:42 PM
Member Since: 01-Jan-01
13181 Total Posts


lol yeah well no offense but i have no idea who the marine is either.
and if it was so bad back then, why didnt he speak up??

all im saying is i dont know, so im not quite ready to fry him yet.lol. i know some people personally who hate him and some who like him, so ho knows.

i guess we will find out though.



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From: mike greenwood
Date: 19-Dec-03 09:00 PM
Member Since: 01-Jan-01
1055 Total Posts


"guess we will find out though."
Yes, and for the record, I hope he didn't do it, too.




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